Epic KoW?

I know there’s been 10mm Kings of War for a while. I wonder if Mantic will ever officially release a smaller scale version of KoW.

I know there’s lots of people making 10mm scale metal fantasy miniatures in strips for Warmaster and I’m sure these work nicely for KoW too.

I picked up some of the Epic scale stuff from Warlord and those have an interesting property to them where the front row of miniatures have a space in the back of them where the next row can slot in enabling them to be ranked up very easily. The back row only has the piece which slots into the back of the row in front of it and all subsequent rows have both the slot piece and the space in the back.

I’m explaining this poorly. Here’s an image. You can see the large rectangular shape which is the piece that slots into the back of row in front.

To my knowledge nobody has done plastic 10mm strips for generic fantasy. The closest to this would be the Battle of Five Armies game from GW’s Fanatic/Specialist Games and that was released 20 years ago now and is hard to find/expensive.

Watching Peachy on YouTube paint these models in no time got me thinking about this whole idea.

Has anyone else made plastic 10mm strips of figures?

Have you seen the teaser stuff for Wargames Atlantic Grand Battle scale Fantasy Battles?

I don’t have any of their Grand Battle scale models, but there are pictures of hard plastic sprues for existing ranges they do in that scale online. It looks like they put 5 guys lined up on a little puddle base.

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I’ve not.

Here’s the frame for anyone curious:

No bases included with the models but here are a few shots of the bases. I don’t love the style of these bases really.

I am right about 1200 painted into Warlord’s epic range now and had not thought about using them for small scale until your post, I need to find my copy of Kings of War Historical and would rather use that instead of the Hail Caesar rules!

I am working through 3 forces now, Carthage, Celts, and Romans and would definitely recommend them for anyone else considering Warlord epic for Historical 10mm, the details are sharp, the poses are varied for skirmishers, and the price cannot be beat for the rank and file troops. Six plastic frames are out now, with 4 to 6 different troop types on each, and I do not see any way that they do not bring out more over the coming years, my bet is on Greek / Macedonian phalanxes next.

As far as Wargames Atlantic goes, I would not trust the sprue connections mid-spear as seen on the sample picture… I have had problems with removing Warlord’s epic pieces, but only about once every two or three frames, so well over a 99% success rate as far as their mold tooling has gone.

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WGA have just released 10mm orcs and dwarfs will follow. Also coming are English/French forces for Azincourt.

I’m surprised nobody has made plastic proxies for Specialist Games’ Battle of Five Armies which now sells for $500+

A well done set of frames for generic fantasy could fit well while also serving as a good basis for an epic scale Kings of War

10mm is a bit small for me. Ive been liking 15mm. Forest dragom minis are good. The stl files are all 10mm scale if youre interested. I just scale them up for my purposes.

I’m interested in picking up some of these 10mm miniatures and comparing them to Warlord Epic and modern Citadel Epic scale.

WGAs Orcs are exactly that, and the follow up kits we already know of are as well
That they also use the same bases helps for proxies as well.

Remains to be seen how different their own game is or if it is just another Warmaster clone.

So anything generic, be it models or rules is already out there.
For Mantic it should be something different to be successful, not based on Warmaster or KoW and the armies more dedicated to their IP.
Hence why I think Winter’s War would be a good option for Epic KoW. Similar but different factions, possibility of bigger monsters and a more unique theme if all armies are in cold weather clothing.

In addition it would be a good chance to leave the GW inspired design space for something different

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