Celtic Chariots issue

One of the reasons i opted to build my mythological De Danann army as a Herd army, was because it had chariots in it. However, on closer inspection, the actual unit in the Herd army is a combat oriented one, rather than the Celtic chariot role in warfare which would have been more of a hit and run unit, designed to move around the battlefield quickly and fire javelins/slingshot at the foe before running off out of charge range again.
Given this, i’m wondering whether to field my chariots as a regiment of Centaur Bray hunters, rather than Minotaur Chariots, as this would closer represent their role in the army. Would this be confusing to my opponent however?

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As long as your chariots clearly have a ranged attack and do not involve minotaurs I think it’s great.

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many thanks, @DarkBlack. i’d forgotten one important thing. i want a Great Cheiftain on a chariot, so it might get confusing. i’ll just have to my chariots as a hammer, and not as they were historically used.
Kingdom of Men use chariots for fast archers, but i think they are irregular and therefore not suitable to use as allied i think. An all KOM force runs into similar problem in that the hero doesnt ride a chariot.
The models are also more suited to a chariot base of 50100 rather than 5025 or regiment size of 100100 rather than 100125.
Clearly, there was a flaw in the logic regarding the rules for chariots as they do not match most historical basis as far as i can see. Most of the chariots used in warfare were light. They were used to harry the enemy using hit and run tactics, with limited heavy chariot (the Hittites) use for close combat or ramming into the enemy with scythed wheels (Persians) .

The Elf & KoM chariots best represent the historical usages (mainly shooting platforms), some of the others are rather more ‘unsubtle’ (and don’t suck quite so much in-game!)

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Shooting units in general suck in 3rd edition… i think they dampened them all down when they changed from 2nd edition, but got carried away with themselves and lost the plot altogether,

There was an issue with v2 chariots for some army builds (Elves & EoD), but yeah, went to far the other way.

If the only ‘chariots’ in your army would be the bray hunters and an actual hero on chariot don’t think it would much of an issue if modelling was clear.

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thanks @Sceleris, as suggested elsewhere, it might help if i added a few bowmen on foot to the base to avoid confusion, (or better still some slingers once i get my Atlantic Irish box). i’d be using a 100x100 mm base for chariots, but a 125 x 100 base for a regiment of Bray Hunters, so i’d probably need to put 3 chariots on there plus 6+ horses and men to make it look suitably populated for PMC,

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Work in progress, my first 2 Celtic chariots almost complete for Mythological ‘De Danann’ Herd army. I considered running them as Centaur Bray Hunters but in the end kept them as Minotaur chariots… In some part because I had already completed the bases for these two and the third. I used one of the chariot drivers as a javelin thrower balancing on the central pole in a suitable heroic pose suitable for legends.

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Heavy chariots were also used by the Chinese during the Warring States Period (the period that The Art of War was written in) and by Classical Indians (i believe that they used both types, but I’m not sure).

In the case of the Herd, chariots pulled by minotaurs are probably heavy chariots and there are many other lists with light chariot equivalents.
The issue is representing something that was made obsolete by cavalry relevant in in a game that also includes mounted knights with stirrups.

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In the real world better horses made both types of chariot obsolete.
But chariots do look cool and have a certain style.
In a fantasy setting it seems to me that monsters and beasties can make some kinds of chariot more viable. But it’s fantasy! Cool vs realism I know what I want! Or I would just play historicals.

I’m my own opinion I think chariots were useful as a sort of jack of all trades. You need to annoy an enemy with a mobile shooting platform, you can do that. You need to scare and run down foot troops that don’t have strong formation? You need to drop off a bunch of elite guys to hold a hill or bridge? You need to counter enemy cavalry or chariots?
Chariots could do most of this fairly well for their time. sort of a jack of all trades master of none.

If you want to run them as centaurs you could make a 25mm by 100mm strip of a base that you could magnetize to the side of this one?

If we ever did play (unlikely as I’m stuck the other side of the world) I wouldn’t mind you using them as KoW chariots or similar.

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thanks @DarkBlack + @Muakhah . In an ideal world, i’d like to get as close to historically accurate as possible, but it is a mythological army, where little is nailed down as hard fact, being passed on verbally from generation to generation, so we are hovering into fantasy at the best of times, but that’s part of the fun.
For simplicity sake, i’ve decided to go for using them as chariots, especially given that 3rd edition dampened down missile warfare so much, and that even Celtic Ireland/Britain relied heavily on this hit and run style to defeat their enemies, including the might of Rome . Eventually, even in Ireland, the mounted Cavalry unit overtook the chariots, although i’ve always loved them. i even built a couple and used them daily for many years, although my own were single horse, not teams,

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yeah, having chariots alongside proper cavalry is a bit of an oddity, though at least in KoM they operate close enough to historical uses you can argue they were included to allow for stuff like bronze age armies or the Egyptians to be properly depicted. for Herd they suffer from being adaptions of the GW fantasy beastmen… where chariots were treated more like battering rams as far as combat style.

personally, for my Roman-arabic desert themed army, i’m planning to use chariot stats to depict Dromedarii camel riders… which the mix of archery and melee do a decent job with, and they’d still be different than the cataphractarii heavy cavalry or the light horse archers planned for the army.

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that sounds cool @MithrilCoyote