Twilight Kin: starting again

Kings of War Army lists and Tactics
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Hi guys,

Suffice to say, for a number of reasons KoW has been a bit on the backburner for me- mainly, I’ve had little to no time, and very few people to actually play with. I did start hoarding stuff to build up a TK army (as the Dark Elves I had became basically unusable with the fresh coat of paint mantic gavr to the faction), but I didn’t manage to hobby much before time became a hassle once again… and then i fell down the usual negative loop with wargaming: I didn’t want to play because I had little built and ready, and I didn’t want to paint because I didn’t know when I’d actually play…

With 4th now upon us, i’d like to get back on track, though the issue still stands: I’ve got barely anything done (and in the meantime, I matured a new paint scheme i’d like for the army too), and i’ve got barely a clue as to what could actually be worth trying out.

So! I’m asking y’all for some constructive feedback. on this ‘ere list. I went with something relatively elite, so that it wouldn’t take me a lifetime just to hit the table; at the same time, I wanted something a bit thematic, without overdoing it in a way or the other- just trying to dip my toes into the faction, to understand what I actually like playing and whatnot.

Thanks in advance!

Twilight Kin [2500 / 2500]
~ List Valid ~

Battalion 1
Captain on Void-Skiff (Hero (Cht)) 1 [190]

Navigator [2] (Hero (Inf)) 1 [115] Torc of Command [15]

La’theal Voidheart [U] (Hero (Lrg Inf)) 1 [155] Lightning Bolt (3) [0]

Corsair Wranglers (Hvy Inf) Regiment [205]
Corsair Wranglers (Hvy Inf) Regiment [205]

Bound Phantoms (Inf) Troop [120]
Bound Phantoms (Inf) Troop [120]

Bound Butchers (Lrg Inf) Regiment [185]
Bound Butchers (Lrg Inf) Regiment [185]

Corsair Void-Skiffs (Cht) Regiment [185] Corsair Deck Harpoons [30]
Corsair Void-Skiffs (Cht) Regiment [185] Corsair Deck Harpoons [30]

Impalers (Mon Inf) Regiment [245]
Impalers (Mon Inf) Regiment [245]

Bound Mind-screech [2] (Mon) 1 [160] Drain Life (6) [0] Lightning Bolt (6) [0] Wind Blast (6) [0]

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Welcome back! And good luck with your Kin! Theoretically I’m building them up right now too … but the distractions are real :confused:

On the list, I’m thrilled that you’re considering Wranglers but they are for real quite bad. I love mediocre things, however with the changes to their gun (disorder is gone from the game so it’s just a very short range frostbite shot) combined with their huge base, I don’t think there’s much going on there for that huge price tag. I’m tempted to try out a troop sometime just to be cute, but you will be far better served hobbying up a couple Fleetwarden regiments (with an eye towards making them a horde some time when you have more core troops). They’re also a great target for the Navigator’s vicious power or orders.

Here’s my pass at your list, swapping in the ‘Wardens and aiming to get you a second Mindscreech:

Twilight Kin [2475 / 2500 (25 Remaining)]
~ List Valid ~

Battalion 1
Captain on Void-Skiff (Hero (Cht)) 1 [190]

Navigator [2] (Hero (Inf)) 1 [120]
– Banner of Command [20]

La’theal Voidheart [U] (Hero (Lrg Inf)) 1 [155]

Corsair Fleetwardens (Inf) Regiment [140]
Corsair Fleetwardens (Inf) Regiment [140]

Bound Phantoms (Inf) Troop [120]
Bound Phantoms (Inf) Troop [120]

Bound Butchers (Lrg Inf) Regiment [185]
Bound Butchers (Lrg Inf) Regiment [185]

Corsair Void-Skiffs (Cht) Regiment [155]
Corsair Void-Skiffs (Cht) Regiment [155]

Impalers (Mon Inf) Regiment [245]
Impalers (Mon Inf) Regiment [245]

Bound Mind-screech [2] (Mon) 1 [160]
Bound Mind-screech [2] (Mon) 1 [160]

I really don’t rate the Void-Skiff shooting, I think you’ll spend a lot of time positioning those flank arcs just to roll a few 5+ or 6+ to hit. Otherwise Skiffs are really solid and one of the few flying core options in the game!

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yeah hybrid shooting is really awfully costed, 30 points for a terrible ranged attack on the skiffs that stops your from using your good melee profile is just… its beyond bad. Wranglers fall into that same boat, its a better shooting attack but still worse than just meleeing things - and their cost, you could get a horde of other Corsairs at that price!

If you want to use the Corsairs, get Regiments of Fleetwardens/Voidwalkers, and Reapers are pretty good without the hangers-on.

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I tend to agree. The terror and void lurker are both great titan options too and a welcome change when you’re painting so many troops.

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Thanks for the suggestions! I did find a the skiffs’ ranged a bit underwhelming, especially for that point cost; i’m sad to hear it’s as bad as I thought. As for the wranglers, I really hoped they could work, as I just love the concept behind the unit; I was hoping them being stealthy could justify the unit a little bit… though to be fair, I had completely forgotten that fleetwardens’ got CS1 by default, which really makes them not compare well at all.

I really like the corrections you suggest to the list, it’ll definitely be what I’ll build towarrds in the near future, keeping an eye out for some alternative builds. Do y’all reckon mutants to still be worthwile? And seeing they were pointed out, how would you suggest playing reapers?

Thanks in advance!

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