Order of the Green Lady advice needed

So, i havent played Kings of War in a Year and never since the big red book came out. It was a shock to me when i realized that Maccwars Potion was removed from the game. I am going to play KoW again in May i would like to ask for some advice with the list i created. Oh, and i do not own any ensnarers or elementals, centaurs or pegasi.
Just in advance :wink:

So here is what i came up with…

Bretonnias Ancestors [2225 / 2250 (25 Remaining)]
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The Order of the Green Lady [2225]

[Sons of Bordeleaux] Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [370]

  • Banner of the Green Lady [20]
  • Brew of Haste [20]
    [Couronnes Last Defenders] Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [345]
  • Sir Jesse’s Boots of Striding [15]
    [Calards Grail Knights] Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [270]
  • Blessing of the Gods [20]
    [Reolus’ Grail Knights] Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [270]
  • Chant of Hate [20]
    [Pegasus Knights of Parravon] Order of the Forsaken (Large Cavalry) Horde (6) [265]
  • Pipes of Terror [10]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    [Miraculix] Druid (Hero (Infantry)) 1 [125]
  • Wings of Honeymaze [40]
  • Heal (2) [0]
  • Bane Chant (2) [20]
    [Dämonix] Druid (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [110]
  • Forest Steed [25]
  • Heal (2) [0]
  • Bane Chant (2) [20]
    Avatar of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Infantry)) 1 [150]
  • Heal (6) [0]

What should i do with the last 25 points? what could i change to improve the list? I am an old Bretonnian Veteran from Warhammer 5th to 8th Edition so i own most models and units of the bretonnian model range.

Couple of points.

Swap out haste for sharpness or brew of Strength - the knights are going to get stuck in the grind, so make sure they really hurt!

Don’t think wings on the druid is worth it - a horse and conjurers staff might be better?

3 casters might be one to many, while a mounted combat character could really work well?

All fine points. You really want static combat buffs on cav hordes. Have you looked at the Champ of the Green Lady? Lots of points but lots to love, and makes your expensive knights stick around and grind longer.

Here’s a pass from me that cuts into the items to get the Champ in, if you’re interested:

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [375]
– Vial of Sacred Water [5]
– Brew of Strength [40]
Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [365]
– Vial of Sacred Water [5]
– Chant of Hate [30]
Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [250]
Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [250]
Order of the Forsaken (Large Cavalry) Horde (6) [260]
– Vial of Sacred Water [5]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Druid (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [120]
– Forest Steed [25]
– Conjurer’s Staff [10]
– Heal (2) [0]
– Bane Chant (2) [20]
Avatar of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Infantry)) 1 [150]
– Heal (6) [0]
Champion of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [210]

In general tho, loving the quadruple Critters and double cav hordes!

Hm. I am not so sure about knight hordes without at least one with pathfinder. I never really used fighting charakters before but i will check out the green knight… I mean champion of the green lady. The Idea of the double Druid, is to have bane chant for more than one unit.

Given access to the banner, its almost criminal not to take it :wink:

Depends really if you want boosted BC access or the RoL/CoD aura whether to go 2 druids or druid/avatar?

Either champion or exemplar is really handy imo

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More I thought about it, more taking the pathfinder banner over Vicious makes sense to me, especially with access to BC. For the move through cover aspect more than hindering. Cav hordes don’t really work by charging 16" with TC2 blazing, they’re way more likely to be counter-charging after being chaffed or disordered or what have you.

Ok, how about this?
i would prefer to have unit of order of the forsaken but even i switch out the order of the brotherhood regiment and remove Blessing of the gods from my Grail Knights i am still 5 points short.

Summary

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The Order of the Green Lady [2250]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [215]

  • Chant of Hate [20]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [345]

  • Sir Jesse’s Boots of Striding [15]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [390]

  • Banner of the Green Lady [20]
  • Brew of Strength [40]

Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [270]

  • Blessing of the Gods [20]

Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [250]

Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]

Exemplar Adjutant (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [100]

  • Horse Mount [25]
  • Lute of Insatiable Darkness [25]
  • Bane Chant (2)

Avatar of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Infantry)) 1 [150]

  • Heal (6) [0]

Champion of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [210]

Or this one… not a lot of healing though

Summary

1234 [2250 / 2250]
~ List Valid ~

The Order of the Green Lady [2250]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [345]

  • Sir Jesse’s Boots of Striding [15]
    Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [390]
  • Banner of the Green Lady [20]
  • Brew of Strength [40]
    Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [270]
  • Blessing of the Gods [20]
    Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [250]
    Order of the Forsaken (Large Cavalry) Horde (6) [255]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
    Exemplar Adjutant (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [100]
  • Horse Mount [25]
  • Lute of Insatiable Darkness [25]
  • Bane Chant (2)
    Druid (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [110]
  • Forest Steed [25]
  • Heal (2) [0]
  • Bane Chant (2) [20]
    Champion of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [210]

I’m pretty certain a unit gains the Sacred Water keyword when you give them a vial of sacred water, which is huge if you’re taking the Champion as his rally only works on Sacred Water units. If you don’t pay those points his rally only works on the Redemption regs. Thankfully you have points to cut in the Redemption’s blessing, the horde’s boots (I’d take a pathfinder horde and a CS1 horde personally), and so on.

I also just noticed that you’re playing 2250 points? Is that a points total in your area? Much of the world has moved on to 2300 for Kings, or 1995 for tighter games that de-emphasize spam.

The Tournament i am playing at has 2250. Weird, i know.
My Plan was to support the Grail Knights with the Green Knight. The Exemplar to support both hordes (giving Bane chant whre ever it is needed)and the druid is supposed to help the pegasus knights. Thats the general idea. But its true, if i ad the vial to the hordes they would profit from the Champion as well.

I could remove the boots, get the Brew of strength to the horde without pathfinder and add the vial to both hordes and the forsaken.

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I’d almost let the peg knights flap off on their own and force-multiply what the hordes & redemption can do by keeping, where possible, the characters around them.

The hordes with rally and healing take an awful lot to shift - ran a horde in recent event with banner, sacred water and sharpness backed by champion & avatar and it took being charged by most of an AD army to kill it - nothing else got close!

good point. I used the Avatar of the green Lady 1.5 years ago in a tournament. Didnt work that well. I got tabled in every game :smiley: But i painted the model one evening before i went to Hamburg :smiley:


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Still undecided with the list though. To bad i dont have someone to test it with. Would be much easier but since KoW is pretty much dead where i live, i dont have that luxury

I guess we could try to organize a game, though I haven’t played KoW for over a year as well.

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Kannst mir ja eine PM schicken oder so, dann schauen wir mal, ob wir einen Termin finden :wink:

So i guess this is it then…

The Order of the Green Lady [2250]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [250]

  • Vial of Sacred Water [5]
  • Crystal Pendent of Retribution [50]

Order of the Brotherhood (Cavalry) Horde (20) [400]

  • Vial of Sacred Water [5]
  • Banner of the Green Lady [20]
  • Brew of Sharpness [45]

Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [265]

  • Helm of the Drunken Ram [15]

Order of Redemption* (Cavalry) Regiment (10) [280]

  • Brew of Strength [30]

Order of the Forsaken (Large Cavalry) Horde (6) [275]

  • Vial of Sacred Water [5]
  • Helm of Confidence [15]

Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]
Woodland Critters* (Swarm) Regiment (3) [80]

Exemplar Adjutant (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [100]

  • Horse Mount [25]
  • Lute of Insatiable Darkness [25]
  • Bane Chant (2)

Avatar of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Infantry)) 1 [150]

  • Heal (6) [0]

Champion of the Green Lady [1] (Hero (Cavalry)) 1 [210]

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Nice - if you want to run the pendant I’d stick it on the Forsaken as a big nuclear bomb strike and make the cavalry regiment a more supporting unit?

Well, i could give the pendant to the Peg Knights and then give the regiment Aegis of the Elohi but without inspiring my flyers get shot down pretty often. Oh well, i’ll just do it :smiley:

Aaand the Tournament got canceled -.-

My Treemen and Dragon minis are much bigger now, watch out if we ever have that rematch @bremer1701 ! :laughing: :sweat_smile:

@Mikes pff. next time we meet, i’ll stomp you even harder then before… did i mention that i need some firewood for the next winter? :smiley:

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